znalazłem na mobile,
taką oferte która kieruje do komisu:

"rv"  wrote in message

znalazłem na mobile,
taką oferte która kieruje do komisu:

Użytkownik "rv" <

http://tiny.pl/lv8q

o co chodzi?
to jakis przekręt z tymi zaliczkami jest?

rv pisze:

taką oferte która kieruje do komisu:

http://tiny.pl/lv8q

o co chodzi?
to jakis przekręt z tymi zaliczkami jest?

Użytkownik "rv"  napisał w wiadomości

"rv"  wrote in message

znalazłem na mobile,
taką oferte która kieruje do komisu:

http://tiny.pl/lv8q

o co chodzi?
to jakis przekręt z tymi zaliczkami jest?

Użytkownik "WielkaBakteria." <

Mam nadzieję że sprawa faktycznie siewyjaśni. Może ktos z was też mógłby poprowadzićz nimi korespondencję i przesłać potem IP z których nadają?

a pod tym ogloszeniem
http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/showDetails.html?id=35257379&__lp=2&scopeId=C
kryje sie szwindel z western union...

koles nazywa sie "Peter James Crumm" (duzo o nim na google),
zawsze odsyla podobne maile az dochodzi do
takiej tresci:

Hello,

Look how we can make this deal , because I have tried to find the best
solution for the both of us. It's very hard for me to take a break from
my work,
but look how we can make this deal:  I think that the best solution is
that you will come here in UK and we can make the deal face to face, in
person.
I think this is the best solution for the both of us. But to be sure
that you are a serious person and I will come in UK at home for a real
deal,
you will have to show me that you really have the money for this car and
you are a serious person, and you will come in UK to see the car, and I
will
not take the break from my work for nothing. To show me that you have
the money and you are coming in London even to get your money back, you
will have
to go with a friend at Western Union Service in your city.Your friend
will send the money from his name to your name, in London,UK.
This way you can be sure about your money, because only you can pick it
up, in UK(and when you are here, it's simple, because you can take the
money
from Western Union, here in UK, and pay me for the car, in person, with
cash).Please understand that when you will make the
transfer via western union they don't allow you to send the money from
your name to your name in London,United Kingdom(to use the same name as
the sender and the receiver)
because may cause some problems and maybe we will have also problems
when you will be in London and we will pick up the money from their
office and this is the reason that
you must take a friend or relative with you and he will send the money
from his name to your name in London,United Kingdom.The transfer must to
be like this:

sender name      :    your friend's or your relative's name
sender address   :   address of your friend or relative
receiver name    :    here will be your name
receiver address :   London , United Kingdom

After you have made the payment by Western Union, you will send me the
scanned receipt ( paper ) they will give you. If the money are OK and
you are the
receiver, in Western Union, in UK, I will take a break from my work, we
will arrange to meet together and you will be able to see the car.
You must to understand my point, because I want to be sure that you will
come in United Kingdom and we can have a real deal, not just words.
When you will be here in UK, you will see the car , verify the papers
with the Police in London and you can see that is everything is OK.
After you see that the car is OK and you decide you want to buy it, we
will make the sale contract and the car will be on your name. After we
have made
the contract, we will go together at Western Union, you will take the
money, since the money are sent to your name and only you can take it,
you will give
me the rest of the money for the car in cash, like I have told you. I
hope that everything is clear and you can make a trip to United Kingdom
so we can
have a real deal. Probably this payment method it is not very familiar
to you, but I have to admit that it is most efficient process to go
through.
I need to tell you something and I hope you can understand me; if you
don't like the car, I will give you back the money for the plane
tickets, and also
I will give you back the fees that you have paid for the transfer by
Western Union.Please consider that Western Union has fees and if you are
bothered by those
I will deduct them from the price of the car.So please reply me soon,
and tell me if we can make the deal!My experience in the sale business
proved to me that quality is the key element to have a successful
business. Good faith and passion for winning has always
been my top priority and my most valued business approach.If you don't
know where you can find Western Union, in your city, please tell me your
city name, and I can find for you a location, where you can go and
arrange the payment. Please reply me soon!

Użytkownik "rv" <

koles nazywa sie "Peter James Crumm" (duzo o nim na google),
zawsze odsyla podobne maile az dochodzi do
takiej tresci:

Damian / TNC.pl pisze:

Użytkownik "rv" <

koles nazywa sie "Peter James Crumm" (duzo o nim na google),
zawsze odsyla podobne maile az dochodzi do
takiej tresci:

A to zmienia postac rzeczy bo jak widze o gosciu nie chce wplaty juz na niego lecz
odbiorca kasy w Western Union ma byc sam wplacajacy.
Czy ktos wie jak w takiej sytuacji ma dojsc do "walka"?
Czy WE wyda komus 'zadeponowana' kase tylko na dowod nadania? Bo zawsze
myslalem ze aby odebrac pieniadze trzeba przyjsc osobiscie z dowodem osobistym,
a tu jakas nowa niespodzianka...

A to zmienia postac rzeczy bo jak widze o gosciu nie chce wplaty juz na
niego lecz
odbiorca kasy w Western Union ma byc sam wplacajacy.
Czy ktos wie jak w takiej sytuacji ma dojsc do "walka"?

Użytkownik "rv" <

Ten wałek dla mnie jest bardzo zagadkowy,
ale wszedzie w sieci piszą o tym kims ze to wielki oszust,

Damian / TNC.pl pisze:

Użytkownik "rv" <

koles nazywa sie "Peter James Crumm" (duzo o nim na google),
zawsze odsyla podobne maile az dochodzi do
takiej tresci:

A to zmienia postac rzeczy bo jak widze o gosciu nie chce wplaty juz na niego lecz
odbiorca kasy w Western Union ma byc sam wplacajacy.
Czy ktos wie jak w takiej sytuacji ma dojsc do "walka"?

Damian / TNC.pl pisze:

A to zmienia postac rzeczy bo jak widze o gosciu nie chce wplaty juz na niego lecz
odbiorca kasy w Western Union ma byc sam wplacajacy.
Czy ktos wie jak w takiej sytuacji ma dojsc do "walka"?

Czy WE wyda komus 'zadeponowana' kase tylko na dowod nadania? Bo zawsze
myslalem ze aby odebrac pieniadze trzeba przyjsc osobiscie z dowodem osobistym, a tu jakas nowa niespodzianka...

Tomasz Pyra pisze:

Na stronie WU masz napisane że dane transferu muszą zostać poufne i nie wolno ich udostępniać nikomu poza odbiorcą

Tomasz Pyra nastukał(-a):

Tomasz Pyra pisze:

> Na stronie WU masz napisane że dane transferu muszą zostać poufne i
> nie  wolno ich udostępniać nikomu poza odbiorcą

Tu konkretnie:

http://www.westernunion.com.pl/bezpieczenstwo.html

"Aby zapewnić bezpieczeństwo  wysyłanych pieniędzy, chroń  dane
przekazu, tzn. nie udostępniaj ich osobom postronnym."

Massai pisze:

Ja nie kumam jednej rzeczy.
Jak to jest że te wszystkie policje są takie głupie...
No bo co za problem wysłać przelew, posłac facetowi skan, a w western
union zrobić zastrzezenie przy przekazie: "przy próbie wypłacenia nie
wypłacać, lecz zawiadomić najblizszy posterunek policji".
Migusiem by ich wyłapali.

Tomasz Pyra pisze:

Damian / TNC.pl pisze:

A to zmienia postac rzeczy bo jak widze o gosciu nie chce wplaty juz na niego lecz
odbiorca kasy w Western Union ma byc sam wplacajacy.
Czy ktos wie jak w takiej sytuacji ma dojsc do "walka"?

Jakub Witkowski  napisał(a):

Tomasz Pyra pisze:
> Damian / TNC.pl pisze:
>
>> A to zmienia postac rzeczy bo jak widze o gosciu nie chce wplaty juz
>> na niego lecz
>> odbiorca kasy w Western Union ma byc sam wplacajacy.
>> Czy ktos wie jak w takiej sytuacji ma dojsc do "walka"?

Hint: stwierdzenie tożsamości i to za granicą...
Zadziwiające, że żyjąc od urodzenia w naszym pięknym kraju
nie łapiesz w lot tak podstawowych rzeczy :)

Użytkownik " caspa"  napisał w wiadomości

oto jego ostatni mail :
Hello again,


I still think that the best solution to do this is meeting in London face
to
face. You will be able to see the car,
drive it and test it on the authorized dealer. We can arrange all the
papers
in few hours in a notary's office with the police service.
I think my brother-in-law( who is a police officer) will help us with the
documents. There are two ways to do that, I can give you my license
plates ( and my insurance ), or you can buy a temporary license plates
from
London ( witch costs is 30-50 EUR ). If you are thinking about how
you can return to continent - there are 2 ways too ( from my point of
view ).
You can return through Eurotunnel ( witch costs is 50-70 Eur )
or with ferry boat ( witch costs is much lower ). At the end of this
message
you will find my phone number but I must tell you that is not working
all the time because I am in roaming. Since we still working at our
offices
here we don't have a phone installed - In few days we will resolve this
issue and I will give you the number from my office. So, if you decide to
buy
my car and come in London please let me know and we can think about
closing this deal in the safest, fastest way for the both of us.


Waiting for your reply,
Peter James Crumm
23 Old Gloucester Street, London, , WC1N 3AF